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2002-11-24 Gund Arena, Cleveland, OH

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2002-11-24 Gund Arena, Cleveland, OH

Indlægaf Michael » 16. apr 2011, 14:27

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Re: 2002-11-24 Gund Arena, Cleveland, OH

Indlægaf Michael » 16. apr 2011, 14:28


- John Soeder, Cleveland Plain Dealer Pop Music Critic

Mark the words of keyboardist Dizzy Reed: The new Guns N' Roses album will see the light of day - finally! - in 2003.

It's called "Chinese Democracy." But a more fitting title may have been "Appetite for Procrastination."

The oft-delayed project has been in the works for years. It should be in stores by June, according to Reed.

"There are just a few odds and ends left to do - a couple of finishing touches, a couple of vocals - and we need to mix it," he said.

In the meantime, GN'R - long MIA, except for a handful of one-off gigs - is mounting its first North American tour since 1993. The hard-rock group, fronted by enigmatic live wire Axl Rose, performs Sunday at Gund Arena.

Speaking by phone last week from a Chicago hotel, Reed said it feels "utterly fantastic" to be back on the road.

"It's the right time to get out there and to let people know there's still rock 'n' roll to be played," he said. "People seem to be having fun. And so are we."

Granted, neither the band nor its fans had much fun at General Motors Place in Vancouver, B.C., where the tour was supposed to get under way Nov. 7. A riot ensued when the venue canceled the opening-night show at the last minute because there was no sign of Rose.

"Axl was en route," said Reed, who was backstage with other band members in Vancouver before all hell broke loose. Disgruntled concertgoers pelted police and security guards with rocks and smashed windows at the arena.

"It had little to do with us and everything to do with the owners of the building," Reed said. "They panicked and pulled the plug."

Rose & Co. did perform the following night in Tacoma, Wash. Two weeks into the tour, they've been getting mixed reviews, with some accounts mentioning half-full venues.

"Some shows weren't sellouts, but I wouldn't call them half-full," Reed said. "The people who were there were having a great time. They were losing their minds. That's what counts to me."

Rose, who co-founded GN'R in the mid- '80s, and Reed, who joined in 1990, are the only holdovers from the band's pre-grunge heyday left in the lineup.

They're joined by drummer Brian "Brain" Mantia (formerly of Primus), bass player Tommy Stinson (Replacements), keyboardist Chris Pitman (Replicants) and three guitarists: Richard Fortus (Psychedelic Furs), Robin Finck (Nine Inch Nails) and Buckethead, a masked man who sports a KFC bucket on his head.

"It's funny - if you took any pair of us, none of us would've started a band together," said Reed, 39. "We've had to work hard at the chemistry. But everyone is so talented, it works. You add Axl and it works even better.

"In the old band, I came along a bit later, when the chemistry was already established. It grew out of playing clubs and bars in Hollywood. I used to go to all the shows. I saw it happen."

In a separate interview, Stinson said the motley new members of GN'R have at least one thing in common: They want to make rock 'n' roll history.

"This has never been done before," he said. "The lead singer takes the band name, for something as big as Guns N' Roses was, and continues with an entirely different lineup - no one has really done it, certainly not with any success. So there's a lot riding on this."

Four ex-members of GN'R - Slash, Duff McKagan, Matt Sorum and Izzy Stradlin - have been auditioning singers for a new band of their own, although Rose holds the rights to the Guns N' Roses name.

"I wish them the best," Reed said. "If they want to go out and hit the road, cool. No one can stop them. They're great players in their own right."

Stinson, 36, was brought into the GN'R fold four years ago.

"I was doing a session with a friend of mine who played drums for GN'R at the time, Josh Freese," he said. "He was joking about them needing a new bass player. I laughed and said I'd play bass. The next day, they called. I learned about four or five songs. A day or so after the audition, they called and said, 'If you want it, you're in.' And I took it.

"I wasn't much of a GN'R fan . . . when I was making [Replacements] records. We were a different breed. But you couldn't help but hear the GN'R stuff on the radio and on MTV every 10 minutes because it was the flavor of the day."

GN'R burst out of Los Angeles in 1987 with the debut album "Appetite for Destruction," which sold 15 million copies in the United States alone. It spawned the No. 1 hit "Sweet Child o' Mine."

The group hasn't released a batch of all-new original material since 1991, when GN'R simultaneously unloaded two full-length efforts, "Use Your Illusion I" and "Use Your Illusion II."

Whether or not "Chinese Democracy" proves worth the wait remains to be heard. At any rate, it promises to be a bit of a departure.

"For a GN'R record, it's pretty diverse," Stinson said. "It's not straight down the rock 'n' roll road. It's all over the place, in a good way. It has a little bit of everything - the old Guns N' Roses vibe, ballads, a couple of pop songs."

On "Chinese Democracy," Rose delivers "more soulful singing," Stinson said. "You really get to hear some different tones in his voice which don't lend themselves to traditional bluesy riff-rock. And the lyrics are a lot more in-depth, with deeper sentiment and emotion than some of the earlier stuff."

Speaking of Rose - depicted two years ago in a Rolling Stone cover story as a reclusive, night-dwelling, psychic-consulting control freak - is he . . . OK?

"I'll tell you why I'm still with the guy: He's got my back," Stinson said. "He's the most loyal guy you could ever meet. There's a lot of love in him. There's a real person there who goes way beyond his historical past, you know?"

Rose is "one of the most thoughtful people I know," Reed said. "He's one of the smartest, too. Musically, he's close to being a genius, if he isn't one. He can take any idea and once he adds his thing to it, it turns into magic. I love the guy."

Alongside "Welcome to the Jungle," "Paradise City," "Patience" and other vintage GN'R tunes, the band's recent set lists have showcased several "Chinese Democracy" songs, including the title track and "Madagascar."

"The new songs are working out great," Stinson said. "The old ones are fun to play, too. We've taken some liberties, but you'll definitely recognize them. We don't do disco versions of anything. We've all just taken what was there and made it our own."

The new Guns N' Roses sounds "like GN'R should sound in 2002," Reed said. "Hopefully, I see us fitting in on the radio, on MTV and at an arena near you."
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Re: 2002-11-24 Gund Arena, Cleveland, OH

Indlægaf Michael » 16. apr 2011, 14:29

schnoogans 37's Review

Well I just got back from the 4 hour drive back from Cleveland....it's almost 5AM, I should be sleeping, but I know you people want to know all about the show so I'll do my best to fill in....some may overlap the other review...

It all started when I found 8th row tickets (floor) for 35 bucks last minute yesterday on ebay. I figured I had to go for that price and that good of a seat so I bought the ticket, had to meet the broker at a bar near the Gund Arena (The Winking Lizard---nice bar) to pick them up. Got there around 7:30, got my tickets, and started heading to the arena....

As I'm walking I pass a bar playing 'Sweet Child O' Mine'....so naturally I had to go in and check it out....next song up came 'Dead Horse', turns out the bar was like playing Appetite, Lies, and the Illusions on Random, people were going apeshit with each new song that came on....very cool.

Finally get over to the arena, missed CKY (Oh no!), asked if they got booed again and was told they werent and were actually really well recieved....hmm.

Mix Master Mike came on....I dont care, I like the guy....DJing sh*t isnt for everyone, but I thought it was a fun way to fill time before GNR. Crowd wasnt exactly going nuts, but they sure werent booing either. Really nice crowd, nice atmosphere, which I think carried over to GNR and Axl.....because Id never seen Axl in a better mood than he was tonight....anyways crowd gives the Mix Master decent applause, no boos whatsoever, pretty cool.

GNR came on about 10:10, pretty early for Axl. They used that new intro, which listening to it for the second time I can finally tell what it is....it's the sound of an orchestra warming up, like at the beginning of the Fantasia movies.....just a mess of orchestral instruments warming up for a show....pretty cool.

Axl wore a 27 Browns jersey? changed to a 2 Browns Jersey? Then a Cleveland Indians Jersey. If you wanted to see Axl in a talkative mood I hope you were in Cleveland tonight. He could barely shut his mouth. His attitude the whole night was like a kid on christmas. He was just having way too much fun from the get-go and was ULTRA- personable.

He asked the crowd if he'd worn the right Jersey...then started doing a voice "I just dont get Axl, what is he trying to be? Hip hop with those Jerseys", talked about how he just liked to wear jerseys, lay off.

Then came him talking to a guy in the front row. In between songs he came out smiling and was like "Wait a minute. I have to ask this guy whats wrong. You look bummed. Are you not having a good time? I want you to get your moneys worth." Sits down to chat with the guy. Finds out his name is Steve. "Hey everyone, this is Steve." Steve says hes having a great time, so Axl concludes that steve just has problems with expressing him emotions and it's all good. This was hilarious. Very representative of the mood Axl was in.

When Axl introduced Richard, he told a story. He said that following Richard's first audition with the band he flew back home and at the airport someone ran up to him and said "Hey Izzy, can I get your autograph?" Axl said he took it as a good omen and signed him on.

As Axl sat down to play November Rain he quickly launched into another song.....that wasnt one of the normal intros, then he leaned forward to sing....for a split second I thought it was a new song....then he sang "Youuuu....are suchhhh...an asssshole, Nooone knows how much of an assssholllle you arrrrre" Then he looked up and said "Oops wrong song" and started the funny double-time intro....just some fun playing around from Axl.

Axl talked about "I bet when I was a kid, singing in church choir, this was not quit what they expected me to end up doing...." Then he even launched into singing a little bit of "Jesus lovvves the litttle children...."

In between two songs Axl just started breathing heavy into the mic doing a 'toking a joint' sound. Then he was like "I smell something out there.....and I don't think it's cigarrettes....I think this is what you call a contact high"

He thanked the crowd for being 'gamblers' by coming out to see the band. He said everyone in the crowd was a bit of a gambler. Then he talked about watching CNN and the Vancouver Riot footage.....he said he saw a woman babbling about ....(doing woman voice) "Oh my goodness it was horrible it was just like a movie...." "And then the voiceover comes over" (he does a really funny deep, professional voiceoever voice) "But this..........was NO movie." It was pretty funny, especially since Axl seemed to just be enjoying himself so much telling all these stories....

Just before Chinese Democracy, Axl told the crowd that he could "very much feel the love here". And it was obvious he could too, he treated the crowd all night long like a bunch of old friends. He was very happy when he said this and it looked like he really meant it.

Axl talked about how the production engineer or something like that for the band was from Cleveland....so "If the show sucks, I'm not taking all the blame, It's partly Clevelands fault".

Before Bucketheads dance and solo, He told the 'buckethead story', about Bucket being brought by aliens and raised in a coup and that he needed to do a little artistic expression about all that for us...

At the very end of the night, in between Robins final solo and Paradise City, He stopped things and took a moment to once again thank the crowd.....then said "Thank you.........this is Paradise City", to which the crowd went apeshit.

Overall, just an amazingly fun show. I ended up being only 4 rows from the stage because of the way the stage was set up....so that was very cool. A couple things of note.....Richard played the first solo's on November Rain instead of Robin, then Buckethead played the last one as usual......and Axl's one lyrical f*ck up of the night was on "My Michelle"......he started the song with "Sowin' all your wild oats" but quickly realized his mistake and morphed into the first verse by the second line.....at the time I was like "Oh no, please, not another Detroit", but it was a quick recover and Axl quickly forgot about it.

Just another nice personal moment, the girls I was sitting next to screamed to Richard who was sitting on the front of the stage playing Patience and he stopped playing to look up and wave, he seemed kind of surprised to hear his name get yelled. That was cool.

Setlist was the usual suspects....no Rhiad, but they did My Michelle, Nightrain, And paradise City, so I was very very happy. Arena was about 60% full I'd say, but the people who were there were cool as f*ck. Axl's voice was great, but a bit cleaner than in Detroit, I thought he sounded a touch better and more gravely in Detroit. Also he ran much faster and more often at this show than in Detroit....so maybe that has something to do with it. He sounded great though, just a little more like he did in Tacoma.

I cant think of anything more, I'm tired....Oh except that when I stopped at Burger King on the way home, there was one other guy in the store besides me, I walked in behind him and he walked up to the counter and said "ya'll got tacos?"......at Burger King........maybe it's just late and Im a little delirious, but I found that hilarious.

Guess I'll wrap this one up....Hope you all enjoy it. Once again, Great show, and Axl in one of the best moods I've ever seen....cant wait to see them next week.....this has helped me put the whole nasty detroit ending out of my mind.
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