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2002-11-27 Pepsi Arena, Albany, NY

Indlægaf Michael » 16. apr 2011, 17:32

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Re: 2002-11-27 Pepsi Arena, Albany, NY

Indlægaf Michael » 16. apr 2011, 17:43


- Greg Haymes, Albany Times Union

When Guns N' Roses rumbles into the Pepsi Arena on Wednesday, almost all of the faces will be new -- except, of course, for the guitarist Buckethead, whose face will be obscured by his trademark KFC bucket headpiece.

One of those new mugs belongs to former Love Spit Love and Psychedelic Furs guitarslinger Richard Fortus, who spoke last week from a tour stop in Minneapolis:

Q: How's the tour going?

A: It's going all right, despite the occasional riot.

Q: What was going on in your head when the first date of the tour was canceled, resulting in a riot in Vancouver earlier this month?

A: Shock and dismay -- I mean, I didn't even know what the hell was going on. Tommy (Stinson, formerly of the Replacements) and Dizzy (Reed, the only band member other than Rose who's been with the band for more than five years) were doing an interview backstage with Kurt Loder from MTV, and they heard the announcement that the show was canceled coming over the PA system in the arena. No one could believe it. And it was Robin's (Finck, formerly of Nine Inch Nails) birthday, too. It was such a drag.

Apparently Axl had no idea, either, because he was on his way there. His plane was delayed, and we knew that he wasn't going to make it to the soundcheck, but there was never any question that he'd be there in time for the gig. Apparently, the venue just pulled the plug. It was pretty disappointing. And even worse, when you turn on the TV and see people getting their teeth knocked out, it's not something that you want to be a party to. So now the lawsuits will fly.

Q: When did you join Guns N' Roses?

A: I'm the newest guy. I joined a few months back. We did the tour of Europe, and when we got back, I recorded my parts for the album.

Q: Was it an easy decision to join?

A: Yeah. Tommy's one of my best friends, and he has been for a while. We've done loads of recording sessions together. And with all of the other people that are involved with Guns N' Roses, it's a pretty unbelievable band.

Q: Were you a Guns N' Roses fan?

A: No, I didn't grow up a Guns N' Roses fan, really. I was sort of like a punk-rock kid, and they were one of those bands that was kind of marginal. You know: They had long hair. Certainly, "Welcome to the Jungle" is a pretty undeniable song, and I loved "It's So Easy," too, because that's right up my alley, fitting right in with bands like the New York Dolls, MC5 and the Stooges. But Guns N' Roses were so L.A., and I was a NYC kid. So it wasn't until much later that I really got into the band.

Q: When did you get the call to join up?

A: Actually, I first got a call like three years ago, but before that audition happened, Axl saw Buckethead play, and he decided to go with him instead. Fortunately, I got another call the next time they were looking for someone.

Q: With three guitarists in the band, doesn't the sound get a little crowded?

A: Well, Bucket comes out and does his bucket-ness, and we just make room for each other. When I go back and listen to "Appetite for Destruction" and the other early stuff, there are definitely three guitar parts there. There's Slash's rhythm parts and Izzy's rhythm parts, and then there's Slash's wanking over the top in between vocals. That's what we're trying to do live. And I think that's why Axl wanted to go with three guitars, because that was always missing from the live sound.

Q: How many songs from the upcoming album, "Chinese Democracy," is the band playing in concert?

A: It depends on the night, but we're playing up to four new songs. And once the album comes out, we'll start playing a lot more.

Q: So when is the album going to be released?

A: I've heard that it's coming out in March -- but then again I've heard a lot of things, so you never know.

Q: Has touring with Guns N' Roses been everything you thought it would be?

A: Well, with the exception of the riots, yeah, the tour is a blast. This music is just so much fun to play live, and with this band, wow -- it's just unbelievable. By the time we get to Albany, the band is going to be pretty unstoppable. We're catching our groove again now, and once we get five or six shows under your belts, we'll be firing on all cylinders. It's a pretty good band live.
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Re: 2002-11-27 Pepsi Arena, Albany, NY

Indlægaf Michael » 16. apr 2011, 17:47


- Casey Seiler, Greg Haymes and Mark McGuire, Albany Times Union

A Guns N' Roses A-to-Z, of course, begins with Axl

Among local rock fans, claiming you saw Guns N' Roses at the Palace Theatre in 1987 is the equivalent of saying you voted for John Kennedy in 1960. Everyone wants to be present at the creation.

It was shortly after the band's breakthrough album "Appetite for Destruction" was released, although the record hadn't broken through yet -- nobody knew who Guns N' Roses were. (Nobody knew who the opening act was, either -- EZO, a Japanese heavy metal band that performed in kabuki-meets-Kiss makeup.)

That night, the members of Guns N' Roses were everything a lean, mean rock act should be. They pumped out raw, powerful and genuinely dangerous music with little regard for the consequences. If memory serves, the band was furious that the orchestra pit had been lowered to create a moat between the stage and the fans. It must have been Slash, the guitarist, who jumped into the pit like a buccaneer -- guitar in one hand, bottle of Jack Daniels in the other.

Ironically, there was no need to separate the band from the fans: Only 187 fans attended the show, in a theater that could have held 2,500 more.

There would be few empty seats for Guns N' Roses in the years to come. A few months later, "Welcome to the Jungle" and "Sweet Child O' Mine" made it to MTV and rock radio, and the band was launched on a rocket ride that included big albums, bigger tours (including a slot opening for Aerosmith at SPAC in 1988), and even more monumental tales of excess, debauchery and bad manners.

A very different Guns N' Roses -- essentially lead singer Axl Rose and a crew of hired Guns -- plays the Pepsi Arena on Wednesday. Here's a guide to one of the most lethal bands of the Reagan-Bush era:

is for Axl Rose, born in 1962 in Layfayette, Ind., and raised as Bill Bailey. "Rose" comes from his biological father, who left the family when Axl was 2 (something he didn't discover until age 17; "Axl" was borrowed from the name of one of his teenage bands. The former choirboy hitchhiked to Los Angeles in 1985 to join boyhood friend and guitarist Jeffrey Isbell, aka Izzy Stradlin.

is for the much more bohemian upbringing of Saul Hudson, better known as the top-hatted, Cousin It-lookin' guitarist Slash. Born in Britain, Slash's father designed album covers (including Joni Mitchell's "Court and Spark"); his mother designed costumes for David Bowie.

is for the Los Angeles club circuit, where Rose, Slash and Stradlin worked in various groups before forming Gun N' Roses in 1985 with drummer Steven Adler and bassist Duff McKagen. Alternate band name suggestions included Heads of Amazon and AIDS.

is for the band's March 1986 deal with Geffen Records, which followed the release of the ferocious EP "Live ?!*@ Like A Suicide" on the Uzi/Suicide label. The first fruit of the contract, the 1987 album "Appetite for Destruction," was recently selected as the best heavy metal album of all time by Spin magazine.

is for Erin Invicta Everly, the daughter of Don Everly of the Everly Brothers and the inspiration for the band's 1988 monster single "Sweet Child O' Mine." Her relationship with Rose is an old-fashioned romance: boy meets girl, girl marries boy at Cupid's Wedding Chapel in Las Vegas, boy files for divorce four weeks later, girl and boy reconcile and then break up again, boy annuls marriage, girl tells People magazine that boy was physically abusive.

is for the 1990 firing of Steven Adler. In 1991, the deposed drummer filed suit in Los Angeles Superior Court, claiming that he was canned unfairly. In a neat touch, the suit blamed his drug addiction on his former bandmates.

is for the Guns who are gone, including all four charter members -- Slash, Stradlin, Adler and McKagen -- as well as sometime members Josh Freese, Tracii Guns, Gilby Clarke, Matt Sorum, Dave Navarro, Paul Huge ... frankly, we've lost track.

is for heroin. (You were expecting maybe ham sandwich?) The band's appetite for chemical self-destruction has been an integral part of its story from the beginning. The contract for its first big tour slot, opening for Aerosmith in 1988, included a special rider stipulating that the members of Guns N' Roses would keep their drug use confined to their dressing room in order not to tempt the recently detoxed Boston rockers. "I used to do a little/But a little wouldn't do/So the little got more and more." -- "Mr. Brownstone," 1987.

is for "Use Your Illusion I" and "Use Your Illusion II," the band's much-delayed, double-barreled 1991 follow-up to "Appetite for Destruction." The CDs were released simultaneously, and immediately took up the top two spots on the Billboard charts (dislodging comedian Bob Newhart from the record books). Hits generated by the albums include the epic "November Rain" and the band's cover of Wings' "Live and Let Die."

is for William James, Jesus Christ and Carl Jung, three of the scores of highfalutin references cited in Danny Sugerman's 1991 Guns N' Roses bio "Appetite for Destruction." And that's just the J's: Sugerman, a former Jim Morrison hanger-on who co-authored the bestselling Doors chronicle "No One Here Gets Out Alive," slathers the band with enough pseudoscholarly pseudoprose to make any comp-lit student's head explode. The book does contain one classic line: "If reports and my own eyewitness accounts can be trusted, Axl Rose has been relatively drug-free for almost a year now ... ."

is for Kmart, the retail giant sued by the band in 1990 for allegedly using its name and picture in ads for a toy drum kit. Managing not to giggle, the band's lawyers claimed Kmart damaged Guns N' Roses' reputation.

is for lithium, which Rose began taking in the late '80s after he was diagnosed with manic depression: "Lithium hasn't done one damn thing for me," Rose is quoted in Sugerman's book as saying, "except it's made people think 'Axl's trying to do something to help himself, so this must be a good thing.' In other words, if I trash my hotel room it's accepted more as long as I'm taking my lithium."

is for MTV, which helped make GNR stars, even though the music video channel didn't begin playing the band's breakthrough video, "Welcome to the Jungle," until nearly six months after the album "Appetite for Destruction" was released.

is for new members, which include guitarists Buckethead (joined in 2000), Robin Finck (joined in 1997) and Richard Fortus (2002), keyboardists Dizzy Reed (1990) and Chris Pittman (1999), bassist Tommy Stinson (1998) and drummer Brian "Brain" Mantia (2000).

is for "One in a Million," released on 1989's "G n' R Lies" EP. Sung from the point of view of a white boy on the mean streets of L.A., the lyrics inveigh against immigrants and gays. The EP also includes the song "Used to Love Her" ("but I had to kill her").

is for "Patience," a much more soothing cut from "G n' R Lies." Also one of the Seven Virtues, and something the band's live audiences have become familiar with. In its salad days, the band's serial tardiness was enough to make today's rap caravans seem downright punctual: Fans in Dayton, Ohio, are probably still talking about the 1992 concert in which the band didn't go on stage until 12:25 a.m.

is for Queen. GNR played "A Concert For Life," the Freddie Mercury tribute extravaganza staged at Wembley Stadium in 1992, and recruited Queen guitarist Brian May as their opening act for a tour later that year.

is for riots. Since space is limited, let's just mention the latest: At Vancouver's General Motors Place arena on Nov. 7 -- the first scheduled stop on the "Chinese Democracy" tour -- fans responded to the bad news that bad weather had canceled Rose's flight from Los Angeles by smashing glass windows and doors and setting off fireworks. A small army of police and canine units responded. Is that warm glow that fans were feeling nostalgia for the early '90s, or just pepper spray?

is for Arnold Schwarzenegger. The actor starred in two films with Guns N' Roses songs on their soundtracks: 1991's smash hit "Terminator 2: Judgment Day" (the hit "You Could Be Mine") and 1999's dud "End of Days" (the non-hit "Oh My God").

is for tantrum, trouble and tabloid, all of which Rose knows on an intimate basis.

is for unreleased, the status of Guns N' Roses new album, known as "Chinese Democracy." Rose claims the album will be released in 2003.

is for Black Death Vodka. Slash's endorsement deal with the maker of this jauntily monikered beverage drew the ire of U.S. Surgeon General Antonia Novello in 1992.

is for where are they now? Charter members Slash, McKagen and Stradlin are reportedly writing new material and looking for a singer. A cleaned-up Steven Adler and his mother have put together a book, "No Bed of Roses," about his tenure with the band.

is for -- well, take your pick.

is for "Look at Your Game Girl," an unlisted track on the band's 1993 rack-filling covers album "The Spaghetti Incident." Controversy arose when someone realized that royalties for the song would go to its author, imprisoned mass murderer Charles Manson. The song was dropped from subsequent editions.

is for New Zealand, the nation to which the band fled in December 1988 after Australian officials issued a warrant for Rose's arrest after the singer allegedly made statements condoning drug use during a concert. When you're too wild for Australia, you are bad.

GUNS N' ROSES with Mixmaster Mike and CKY
When: 7:30 p.m. Wednesday
Where: The Pepsi Arena, 51 S. Pearl St., Albany
Tickets: $46, $56
Info: 487-2000
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Re: 2002-11-27 Pepsi Arena, Albany, NY

Indlægaf Michael » 16. apr 2011, 17:48



I'll take first things first. Took Amtrak from NYC to Albany and it was a pleasant ride. Got to ride in Business Class with the big shots and while everyone else read their Wall Street Journals I busted out my Blender magazine with a very dirty looking Christina Aguilera on the cover. No G N' R mentions in this months issue, so unless you want to read about Christina's nipple ring I wouldn't suggest picking up this months issue. On Amtrak I got to talk to a guy by the name of Steve who I met last year in Vegas and who, like many other Gunners, spends a lot of time and money travelling to see the band. He is a real cool guy and we had a real nice talk. It also turns out he knows Eva from here at the bar -so that was pretty cool.

Ok -on to the show. Me and my two friends get to the Pepsi Arena around 4pm and start lining up with about 7 other people who are there. Let me say this, the Pepsi Arena security guards suck some balls. First off, they have one guy -well kid outside in charge of the line trying to arrange the General Admission line. This 19 year old kid is out there trying to arrange the line outside and he does not know what the f*ck he is talking about or doing. He tells us we shouldnt be lining up this early -cause when they open the doors everyone is just gonna bum rush inside anyway and we will lose our spots. He also says there is nothing he can do about it if people start cutting the line. People start buming out so I pull this kid over to the side and tell him that if he isnt gonna police the line, then everyone who is here right now, will. The kid was so terrified to tell people who were arriving to the venue, where the line started and to have their purses open and keys out when they are letting people in. He was having other fans on the line say it to other fans! It was pretty funny -yet sad. If this was a MAJOR city, and the crowd was more rowdy and troublesome -this could have gotten ugly QUICK. After being in Vancouver, all I wanted was a smooth experience, and if that meant me, my friends, and anyone else on line had to be involved with organizing the line and getting sh*t like that together, then it was fine with me.

So at around 6:30 they open the doors. The line goes smooth and everyone gets a wrist band. Me and my two friends get to the front of the stage -against the barricade in front of Finck's side of course. It brought back memories from Vegas last year -I was in the same exact spot in Albany as I was for the two shows in Vegas last year, so it was pretty fuckin cool. We start talking to the venue security working the show -and they were all cool guys. Definitely more organized and tougher than the security guards outside working the show. This one guy was real cool and me and my friends were talking to him. It turns out he was leaving in about 20 minutes to go pick up Axl at the airport and escort him to the arena. That made me feel much much better, knowing that Axl was on his way. Yep, I was still feeling the bad memories of Vancouver -what can I say. An experience like that sticks with ya, and it is going to take me a while to get over it.

CKY takes the stage a little after 7:30 and they are surprisingly good. Much better than what people have been giving them credit for. The guitarist in the band looks like Dave Navarro a bit when he has his hair in his face, and he does the Pete Townsend Windmill any chance he gets, but he is real into it, and plays to the crowd and that got the crowd into it. I thought they rocked and were real supportive of G N' R -saying how they were psyched to be on this tour and this was gonna be a kick ass show. They played a hard set and got a nice reception.

Next up was Mix Master Mike. I like pretty much every type of music -rap, hip hop, and good techno. I was looking forward to MMM but when he got on and played, it just wasnt happening for me. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the concept -I think having someone like this involved on the tour is great -the crossover in genre is not the problem. Where the problem lies is MMM stage set up. Basically, he doesnt have one. All he has going is the turntables he is scratching on and blow up dolls that blow side to side as he scratches. At a rock show, that is not going to cut it. What he should have had is go go dancers on each side of the stage dancing in cages, or even break dancers on stage dancing to the music, and/or a screen behind him playing trippy ass images to the music he was scratching to. If this was a dance club this would not be a problem -cause everyone is doing whatever and into other things. But at a rock show, and for a rock audience, they want something to watch while they listen, something to keep them jamming with the music. Watching MMM just scratch away was not fun. I have a lot of respect for the guy, -I have respect for a lot of good DJs, but his stage set up hurt his performance, and it could have been much better. His set list was real cool, a lot of good tunes he was scratching too -but it got old fast, and it had a lot to do again with the stage set up.

Before G N' R took the stage the famous G N' R tour game "Show Us Your Tits" was played. There were many contestants at the show which I was surprised by -I thought Albany would be more conservative, but hey I'm not complaining. Though it was fun for the first few minutes, like Mix Master Mike's set it got old pretty fast. I'm probably in the minority when I say this, but I was bored. I mean yeah it's always fun to see girls get naked, but I wanted to see G N' R and if I wanted naked girls, I could have stayed in NYC and went to FlashDancers or Scores. I also found it a little tasteless -esp. the camera guys who had a lot of shitty things to say while they were filming the girls (also about Axl which I got real pissed about but that's a whole other story). They even propositioned some girls in the front -offering them a backstage pass -pretty shitty stuff. The girls seemed real slutty and VERY groupish and were looking exactly for that so I guess it was good for them, but it just made me shake my head in disgust. Well, I guess some things never change at G N' R shows.

Around 10:30pm "Show Us Your Tits" ended, and the lights went out. The curtain rises and the stage is revealed. All I have to say is KICK ASS!" The stage set up rocks. The screens/monitors they got going on, with the two levels, and the wings on the side, the chinese banners, just looked awesome. There was some ambient music playing in the background, but no "Exorcist" or "Network" intro. Finck starts "Jungle" and he walks out with Tommy. Finck is dressed in a kick ass black silk suit, with funky socks and cool boots and a kick ass hat, much like the one the wrestler The Undertaker use to wear back in the day. Tommy is dressed in black pants and a funky t-shirt with the number 78 on it. Brain takes his seat at the drums dressed in a yellow flannel, bucket hat he wore at MTV Awards and sunglasses. Dizzy and Chris get on their keys. Dizzy is wearing black G N' R tank to, and Chris has a nice dress shirt on with leather pants and a ski hat.

Buckethead slowly appears -almost like Bela Lugosi in the old Dracula films. You don't actually see him appear -he just sort of shows up. Creepy, yet kick ass! He is wearing gray slacks, gray windbreaker with blue flannel underneath, and a black cape. Axl screams "You know where you are..." and the show officially starts. Axl takes the stage in a New York Rangers third jersey -which I was fuckin psyched about being that hockey is my fav sport and the Rangers are my team! Only thing I was disappointed with was no name or number on the back -he should have had Messier on the back -it would have been a nice metaphor being that Messier is the best leader in all of sports, and Axl is the best front man in all of music. Anyway, Axl and the band were full of energy and just kicked fuckin ass. The whole band (except Bhead -he got into it later on) were all over the stage, interacting with the crowd and just having a great time. After "Live and Let Die" Axl speaks to the crowd for the first time and tells us a story about a girl who came up to him the other night and in a dumb and nasal voice says "Why is Paul McCartney playing your song?" Axl says "I thought that was really funny."

I believe "KOHD" was next, so the set list was a little different. Same songs, but different order. During "KOHD" I hear some asshole screaming VERY LOUD to Axl "Hey Axl, you fuckin asshole. Where's Slash!!? Axl you fuckin suck!" So I look to my right and see the fuckin punk who is talking sh*t. I tell him to shut the f*ck up and he continues to talk sh*t. Everyone around us is yelling at him to end it, but he continues. So I reach over and snuff him/smack him in the head real hard and tell him to go the f*ck home. He looks at me bewildered as 20 other people around me start yelling at him too. I put the middle finger right in his face and tell him he is an asshole. Before I know it, one of Axl's security guys who looks like an ex-football player and who was in front of the stage the whole show, comes over and grabs the guy and tells him something in his ear. The guy didnt say anything after that, and when I looked over for him a few songs later, he was gone, which was good and bad cause after the show it would have been nice to have a nice friendly conversation with him

Anyway, back to the show - Axl switched into a New York Yankees jersey before November Rain and sang the "Asshole Intro" and then apologized and said it was the wrong song. He then played the funny intro where he looks at the crowd. He then played a deep emotional intro which sounded a lot like the piano solo used in the "Making of Estranged" video. Very chilling and hauntingly beautiful. Brain then did the drum intro and started November Rain.

I believe it was after this song that Axl first really spoke of the old band, especially Slash, though he may have said things that I am talking about now a little earlier in the show. It's hard to remember cause I'm so overtired and need sleep.

He started off saying how he has not spoken often on this tour so far, but not to worry cause it was still early and he was just getting warmed up. He made the comparission to De LaHoya and Vargas and how Slash likes to run his mouth in the press about Axl and G N' R. Axl got very emotional at this point and started talking about all the sh*t he went through to get this band together and how they are being treated unfair by the people reviewing the shows and by fans, but people don't or refuse to understand what happened with the old band. He also addressed the people who say "There wouldnt be a November Rain or Estranged if there wasnt Slash" and Axl says "These people don't realize though how hard it was for me to get him to play those songs." He talked about Slash and Duff being bad cops and Axl called himself the sheriff I believe. He said that he has wanted to stay quiet about this for a while, but he wants his side of the story to be told as well, cause all we have heard are lies. He got very into this at this point and told us we had all been lied to and taken advantage of at our expense and it wasnt fair. He said he wants us to hear and know the truth and that everyone has the truth in them -it's just up to the individual to decide if they want to recognize it or not. He brought this point up later on in the show again when he went on another rant about Slash and the old band. He also talked about how the press says he has no integrity left, and that he doesnt give a f*ck anymore. He said "Yep, I have no intergrity left and dont give a f*ck that is why I am here tonight and that is why the band is here tonight and that is why were are going to make this thing work..." He then said that now somebody will record this rant on an MP3, go home and transcribe, and the press will talk about what a bad guy Axl is. It was classic Axl and I loved every minute of it cause it was Axl speaking his mind on what went down with the old band and just confronting everyone who continues to try and hold him and the new band back and from moving FORWARD.

Before "Patience" he was ranting again about the above and then said "People don't understand that Slash and Duff didn't want to be a part of a lot of the songs that were written -and people don't know the arguments that we had at Can Am (?) studios about songs they would and would not play-and here is one of them" -and "Patience" started.

At this point Axl was in a NY Giants Michael Strahan Jersey and the show was going amazing. Axl was really into the crowd and the crowd was really good. Except my friend who is a huge Jets fan and was bumed Axl didnt represent Gang Green

During "Nightrain" Axl made eye contact with me - which he was doing all night which was kick ass -and I gave him the peace sign with real emotion and he gave me the famous Axl smile and nod and gave the peace sign right back to me the same way. It was fuckin awesome!!! Almost another "Rocket Queen" moment for me

The set ended with "Paradise City" and confetti was everywhere!!! I am still picking out confetti out of my pockets! I took off my clothes when I got home and confetti was coming out of the inside of my clothes, it was insane! It was an amazing fuckin show. This band just gets better and better with each show they play and though I thought they were AWESOME for those three shows in Vegas, this show they were just so much more tighter and together. They are truly a band now. They are like a muscle. It gets developed, it grows, and then it just continues to get stronger and stronger the more you work on it. The more shows they play the better they get, and when they kick off the next leg of the tour -they are going to really be something special -esp. playing the new songs. They play the new songs we have all heard already with so much emotion -you can just tell the album is going to be something they are all proud of and are going to fight tooth and nail for.

On a side note, I got to talk with Mr. Loder the other day and he will be in Boston this weekend covering the show, and will make yet another attempt to interview Axl. He said "I have managed to NOT interview Axl on three continents now (Rio, Vancouver, Tacoma)" and also said he is not getting his hopes up about getting an interview done in Boston. But like I told him, if Axl is gonna give a deep and lengthy interview it is going to be with him. He also said "The Garden show will be the big one for this band..." I can't wait!

So whoever has not seen the show yet, youre in for a real treat. Everyone enjoy and have fun. Last night started for me G N' R 3 times in 8 days! Hartford should be rocking and the Garden should really be something special.
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